http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com 60 Wed, 16 May 2012 21:05:28 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848531
You won’t usually see more than 1 shooter out of about 3,000 come up with a roll like the one that follows - the kind that just about every craps bettor dreams about:



Winner-10 (6th roll)



Winner-5 (1st roll)



Winner-8 (1st roll)



Winner-8 (1st roll)



Winner-9 (7th roll)



Winner-4 (15th roll)



Craps-3



Winner-8 (2nd roll)



Seven-out (4) after 2 more ABS rolls



(The shooter was down somewhere around $2,000 when he took out what he claimed was his last $200, and thanks to this 35-roll, 7-point hand, he ended up just about breaking-even for the afternoon.)





PerryB





]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848531 Wed, 16 May 2012 14:29:03 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848365


I just wanted to clear up something that has been on my heart.



Some of you may know, but most do not.



Sometimes I will put up questions for discussion that 1. May appear to be contrary to logic or Johns methods. Or 2. The questions may appear that I really dont know the answer and I get pounded sometimes. I must make a confession:



I do it on puropse. Why? Its not for kicks I assure you. There is a method to my madness. It is for all of Johns new folks that come to this board daily.



What happens when I put a questionable topic is that it sparks lots of comments. Just look at my posts and see how many people read them and talk about them. What happens every single time is that the followers of John chime in with all the correct info and lots of it. This gives the new folks a ton of John without John himself haveing to adress so many questions that people have.



He just dont have the time for it. Nowthen, he never asked me to do it and he may not even like it when I do it. If thats the case I will stop. But, I believe John knows me well enough to understand my motives. John reads me deeper than most and understands why I do it.



Nowthen, some of you may think its just a waist of time for me to do this. I disagree. It brings out so many responces that new folks need to read and,and,and some of the old folks that still dont get it.



My methods may be suspect but my reasoning is to bring as many people to Johns brillience as I can.



When I wrote the post.."What would John do if he had to start all over" I knew very well what he would do and even John himself knew that I was asking it for a deeper reason than it seemed on the serfice..and guess what? it sparked so much interest and great information that I believe he was even suprised. Plus,a lot of lessons were taught...good ones.



So, all that being said, I just wanted folks to understand Why I sometimes do that......Well, now you know.



If John wants me to stop and only ask questions that I really need to know...then I will. But I believe in my heart that it does so much good.



Bottom line is my heart is in the right place..My method may be whacked.....but, I dont think so.



Just thought some of you should know.



By the way, anyone that dont have Johns books,dvd ect.....NEED TO BUY THEM TO HAVE REGUARDLESS.



Thanks,



Ken]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848365 Wed, 16 May 2012 12:01:30 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848314
Hey John,



Just thought I would follow up with you on my move to professional gambling. I wanted to post it rather than email it cause I thought some other folks had interst too.



My son, as you know is in the Marine Corps and what I was hopeing to do was move to where his duty station was. Well, he said he did not need me to do that nor did he want me too because he was affraid that I would move and he still would not spend time with me because he is young and has a life now.



Sounds sad in the beginning but really its a great thing. It shows great independence and that he is ready to take on life head on and really, thats what a parents job is...to get them ready for life. Im sad but oh so proud I cant see streight.



Now that brings me back to the topic at hand. I had told you some time ago that I was ready to jump in with both feet and we talked and you said I was ready and talked with me in great detail to prepare me for the step. Well the step is now and boy did I get lucky.



I am moveing back to where I was born. A little town called Adrian Michigan and would you not beleive that Toledo,Oh is opening up a brand new big time casino which will only be about 30 minits away....plus except for my brother and sister,and son, all my family lives there. Also Detroit has several casinos now which is only about an hour away.



So, it looks like all the stars have finaly alined up and I will be moveing Memorial weekend. Its finally here. The only big change is that instead of the inside being my number 1 play in craps...I have made rhe Ric the number 1 play and inside the number 2 play. Everything else is still the same in my gameing.



I have started incorperating a little more roulette but not much.

You gave me some great tips on sports but I just cant make that my main play..Why? I just dont want to spend the time doing the research. However, learning what I did from you, I will incorporate some sports betting as you suggested to pass some time and make a little money doing it. Football will be the main one. I just hate baseball and most other sports (no offence.)



Thank you very much for all you have done for me over the years. I can not say that enough. You are such a good man..not great because there is only one great....JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR but you are a better man than most people on this board will ever realize. Without you and your books and dvds and oh so under praised free knowladge,This could not be possible. My dream.



Thank you John Patrick. I look forward to giving reports from the great state of Michigan very soon.



All my respect,



Ken]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5848314 Wed, 16 May 2012 11:06:56 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5847021 When in doubt, "DO THE MATH" stupid! It's all laid out in JP's Books, CD's and Seminars! How dumb can anyone be? Just follow his simple Money Management format and 'voila! All the safeguards are in place...No more guesswork. And yes, his Regression System (when properly implemented) is like allowing the Genie to come out of his Bottle!



So just use that Grey Matter that God gave U that U have between your 2 Ears and just do the freaking Math and life inside a Casino will suddenly become more of a pleasure, rather than a place to deposit your hard earned $$! They have something called a Bank, for that purpose...So wake up out there all U recreational/"professional" gamblers! It's time to smell the Coffee and take off those Rose colored Glasses!]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5847021 Tue, 15 May 2012 15:18:58 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845975


I thought this might be an interesting post.



In craps, we know all the odds of a number hitting. Now the math guys say that each number is independent of itself and has no memory.



Now lets say that I have just rolled a 7,7,6,8,8. Ihave thrown zero field numbers. Nowthen, My next throw is indeed independent of the last 5. I could just as easy throw another 5 non fields. But here is the question. My 6th throw still has a 44.4% chance of hitting a field number but, does anyone subscribe to the therory of probability that a field is due.



The therory of math on each roll is set.....but, there also is a math formula for laws of probability which are different than the laws of of each independent roll.



So, if 5 non fields have been thrown.....do the laws of probability or should the laws of probability have ant bearing on weather you bet a field number. ( we are assuming the same thrower )



Should the laws of probability be given ANY weight??



For discussion,



Ken]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845975 Mon, 14 May 2012 21:15:25 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845973
Hello all,



I thought this might be an interesting post.



In craps, we know all the odds of a number hitting. Now the math guys say that each number is independent of itself and has no memory.



Now lets say that I have just rolled a 7,7,6,8,8. Ihave thrown zero field numbers. Nowthen, My next throw is indeed independent of the last 5. I could just as easy throw another 5 non fields. But here is the question. My 6th throw still has a 44.4% chance of hitting a field number but, does anyone subscribe to the therory of probability that a field is due.



The therory of math on each roll is set.....but, there also is a math formula for laws of probability which are different than the laws of of each independent roll.



So, if 5 non fields have been thrown.....do the laws of probability or should the laws of probability have ant bearing on weather you bet a field number. ( we are assuming the same thrower )



Should the laws of probability be given ANY weight??



For discussion,



Ken]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845973 Mon, 14 May 2012 21:14:39 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845165


Ken/All....



As I stated last week, I would have a look at a field system as per



Heavy's board.



A poster stated he saw a player " Money Harvesting " using



a field system and he was making $$$$-bucks, over and over, using it ?



So....... using the limited information, in that post, this is what I



came up with :



Starting on Zumma's page #1 of back-to-back craps rolls from the 4-Queens



& The Golden Nugget, in DT Vegas, these are the recorded rolls of the first 15



shooters :





Shooter #:



1].......599461097

2]......7...97

3]......656...11...7...7...7...57

4]......1010...6107

5]......6108447

6]......7...7...437

7]......3...107

8]......657

9]......8421148...48561185111089117

10]....67

11]....9866811646847

12]....10810...969...61135266106...595...9666638107...55...

.........411885861197

13]....3...548287

14]....7...1010...3...910888957

15.....4659119981191088457.



.....End of page #1 .... 150 back-to-back rolls in 84 minutes.



I waited for 3 back-to-back, non-field numbers



to pass before betting. I used a $25.00 base-betting unit Neg.



Progression ( Neural System ) when betting.



The progression is :



25,40,65,105,175,275,425.



Play # :& Shooter's #'s :



1]......#3 =



2].....#3 & # 4 = .



3].....#5 =



4]......#7/#8/#9 = 7657 = -$25.00] .



5]......# 9....



6]......#9/#10/#11 =



7] ......#11 =



8] ......#12 = [ 3 = +$40.00 }



9]......#12 =



10] ...#12 =



11]....#13/#14 =



12]....# 14 =



13]....#15..... final shooter on page #1. ...

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx



End of page #1......



Totals :



12 plays in 84 minutes of play.... 150 rolls ......netted :



+ $ 365.00 !



Broken down, that comes to :



+ $ 4.35 .....for every minute played !



Thoughts ?



I can move on to page #2 .... if there is an interest ?



Party On..............



Jim







]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5845165 Mon, 14 May 2012 13:44:00 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5843533


I'm just wondering if I'm selling myself short when I leave early (this wasn't the first time). I know in John's books he had different loss limits for different games, like BJ & craps was 40% & roulette was 50%. I'm guessing those weren't arbitrary numbers. I wasn't even down 25%.



I'm starting to think that losing 2 in a row is too big a hole to dig yourself out of that no matter what your loss limit is that should be your signal to leave over 3 & out.]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5843533 Sun, 13 May 2012 03:58:41 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5842654


I had a friend that owned 1000 poker machines back a few years ago..all Illeagle in Tennessee but....he showed me how he could set up the chip to never payoff or give out 4 of a kinds and streight flushes every 10 hands and everything in between.



So...is their really such a thing as a rgn in slots?



Ken]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5842654 Sat, 12 May 2012 12:08:27 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5841758
There is a video poker game at the Bellagio Casino called TRIPLE SPIN POKER. I accidently pressed deal, when I should have immediately pressed the cash out button to get the ticket for the $100.00 I put in there.

Anyway, the way you play this game, is one hand is spinning and you get 2 pair, you have to press deal again so that the 2nd and third and fourth hands also spin revealing a video poker hand.

I won $2.75 on this one and walked away. ]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5841758 Fri, 11 May 2012 20:00:09 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5839218


Thanks for telling me about the Star System. I caught a few $5 games and played the pre-progression on field bets. I understand that it is based on $1 bets so I repeated the ppb if needed.

The first time I won $305 and racked all double hits.

The second time and the third time I lost $215 and $165 both times going about 12-14 decisions without the back-to-back wins.



I think that this would be a good strategy on either side of the line. I would be much less hesitant to play with the requisite green chips in that case. Like you mentioned Field Bets are dicey.



Next time I'll give it a try. I also might use it as a field bet to hedge against a Don't Pass "no nine" laying odds and removing them as the field hits. Just a thought.]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5839218 Thu, 10 May 2012 19:52:50 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5838101
A six deck shoe has 24 of each numerical rank.

So there are 96 10 counts. The old BS had us attacking just about anything-mass quanties of doubling down to lose twice as much.



The dealer has a six showing; and the MBs have us jumping all over it, because there are 96 TCs, and they assume that he has one of them. If the hole card is an Ace, 3, 4, or 5(that is a totl of 96 cards)and a TC gives him a standing hand, which you must best with the garbage that you drew. Long ago I posted that 6 and 8 decks means any card at any time. If that 6 has a two or three under it, it is still not a stiff.



The dealer must hit a stiff; but we do not have to. We have been told when the dealer is suposed to be in trouble; so we often pounce on the point of a spear. The multideck games are more like a lottery. With 3 aids to help it is less than a 50-50 game. The MBs and other fools laugh at 3-in-a-row; but refuse to say how long they will stay in a losing trend.



The discipline to leave a losing trend quickly is hard to gain and even more dificult to maintain. I refuse to be a net donor.

Frank-S]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5838101 Thu, 10 May 2012 04:01:33 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5837432
There is a new roulette machine out in Las Vegas now where in the center is a BIG ROULETTE WHEEL that has a ball that spins around the wheel 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and is lifted by a machine so that the ball can spin around it again for each and every game. There are about 6 red chairs, and you can bet as little as 50 cents to a maximum bet of $50.00. the next is RED X, meaning you cannot bet higher than $50.00 It is a all day all night game of roulette, (not rapid roulette) since the table games in Las Vegas are closed in the morning. You can almost hear the dealer say on all of these machines, "Place Your Bets "DUDE"??



Again this is not rapid roulette that I am talking about, cause that has a video roulette in it. This one has a real roulette wheel and an automatic ball spinning mechanism.]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5837432 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:23:22 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5836619


Table is 2X ODDS



Place $15 do and $15 don't.



Shooter: Point is 6.



Lay $36 odds on the DP, $2 on the 11, $30 in the DC.



Next roll: 6 (ouch!).



Same shooter coming out: 6 (rats...).



Well, that just messed me up. But, for those of you who play this method you have to admit that, it happens more often than we'd like. So I'm just curious how everyone handles this situation. Serious replies only, please. Please, no ficticious examples of 'perfect world casinos', or 'I live in New Mexico and you don't lose your odds on the don't pass when the point is made' type answers. Grinders only, who are looking to win 2 to 3 units and move on.



Thanks! ]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5836619 Wed, 09 May 2012 05:10:05 GMT http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5832694


If you have attempted to call the Pick and Feature Pins.....all lines are down here ....and have been for several hours ......I have put the plays for today on this thread ......



My apologies but I do not know when the lnes will be back up.....



Yesterday we had about a push in the three team round Robin, with the Yaks being the only loss......the other two won (Texas won and Cards game went over )......so in a roundy that would constitute a push (no loss) except for a few extr dollars depending on IOF you bought the run on the cards......



In the two SERIES.....both Tampa Bay and Atlanta won their first two games making them winners but Baltimore beat boston....and of course we had a partial return on the hedge with Balt. to win yesterday.....so we lost just part of our dominant





Paray number two lost with Cards going down....but the option criss cross is open......with hedges on Cubs to beat dodgers....and cleveland to beat Texas....NOT to salvage the series ....but to cut the potential loss down....that is why we set up the criss cross.....



Since the pins are down right now ....I will put todays DAYS PAY PARLAY here.....a three teamer set in TZ.......





DAYS PAY PARLAY.....



Yanks -119 to beat Kansas City.....



Angels -133 to beat Toronto........



Phils/Washington over 5 (with a one run BUY........



the wager is set in TZ and has a potential payoff of an excellent 4-1 ......



I strongly recommend the one run Buy...for if the first two games come in....we have set up for a great middle......



Be sure and also take care of the hedges on the open criss cross for the SERIES........If not for Boston going down to Baltimore yesterday...we would ahve had a no lose situation on winning that SERIES, minus the hedge we would have put in today....but that is the things we have criss crosses for ....



My apologies about the lines being down....but let me tell you about the wonderful things about Florida .......(besides the obvious only one line from the outer world being able to get calls thru....and the fact that our rainfall has been one sprinkle since dec......and our reservoir water supplyy is down to 3 quarts of water per family.......per month....



Well, let me think a while about the assets that florida has ....I am SURE I will think of one or two......



JOHN PATRICK]]> http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5832694 Sun, 06 May 2012 16:59:28 GMT